[Chixla] Have I been missing the meetings?

[Lisa]

My e-mail addy was taken over by a million spammers and I had to change
addresses.  Have I been missing the meetings??  :(
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>    1. Yup! Debian Development LAMP Server Install for our next
>       meeting (Sharon)
>    2. Re: Yup! Debian Development LAMP Server Install for our	next
>       meeting (Cynthia Kiser)
>    3. Re: Yup! Debian Development LAMP Server Install for our next
>       meeting (SMichelle)
>    4. Re: Yup! Debian Development LAMP Server Install for our next
>       meeting (Jeff Carlson)
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> Subject:
> [Chixla] Yup! Debian Development LAMP Server Install for our next meeting
> From:
> "Sharon" <smichelle at livinglikeapenguin.com>
> Date:
> Tue, 18 Jul 2006 13:24:38 -0400 (EDT)
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> Our own Betty wants to have a development LAMP server to run off of her
> dsl line and I thought that this would make a wonderful meeting topic.
> Anyone up for a Debian server install meeting? I'm thinking it might be
> one of the weekends anytime after Aug 11th.
>
> While I've done installs before, I've not set up a server sans X so this
> will be a learning experience for me. Interesting learning opportunities
> could be setting up Apache for virtual domains, firewalls, serving behind
> a NAT, ssh security issues, setting automatic apt-get security updates,
> MySQL user/databases, system admin, logging ... whew, sounds like fun :)
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> /SMichelle
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> Subject:
> Re: [Chixla] Yup! Debian Development LAMP Server Install for our next
> meeting
> From:
> Cynthia Kiser <cnk at ugcs.caltech.edu>
> Date:
> Tue, 18 Jul 2006 13:47:30 -0700
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> Quoting Sharon <smichelle at livinglikeapenguin.com>:
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>> While I've done installs before, I've not set up a server sans X so this
>> will be a learning experience for me.  
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> You are really not going to install X? My servers don't come up with X
> by default (run level 5 in my flavor of Linux), but they all have X
> installed. Even if having X installed was not a prerequisite for
> running the Oracle installer, I don't know I could live without X for
> the simple reason that, even when dealing with plain text like config
> files, I need to see more information at a time than one can at
> 800x600 resolution. 
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> Subject:
> Re: [Chixla] Yup! Debian Development LAMP Server Install for our next
> meeting
> From:
> SMichelle <smichelle at livinglikeapenguin.com>
> Date:
> Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:50:26 -0700
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>>> While I've done installs before, I've not set up a server sans X so
>>> this will be a learning experience for me.  
>>>       
>> You are really not going to install X? My servers don't come up with X
>> by default (run level 5 in my flavor of Linux), but they all have X
>> installed. Even if having X installed was not a prerequisite for
>> running the Oracle installer, I don't know I could live without X for
>> the simple reason that, even when dealing with plain text like config
>> files, I need to see more information at a time than one can at
>> 800x600 resolution. 
>>     
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>
> Yeah, but I think I understood (and Betty will correct me if I'm wrong)
> that there was no monitor/keyboard available for this server beyond what
> is needed for the install, that all subsequent interactions would be
> through ssh and a terminal window. Given that I didn't want to spend
> anytime in getting X set up, and I was also thinking that it would be
> one less package to worry about updates ... however, should there be
> display/input hardware for the server, well, that would change things :)
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> /Sharon
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> Subject:
> Re: [Chixla] Yup! Debian Development LAMP Server Install for our next
> meeting
> From:
> Jeff Carlson <jeff at ultimateevil.org>
> Date:
> Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:28:38 -0700
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> Sharon wrote:
>> Our own Betty wants to have a development LAMP server to run off of her
>> dsl line and I thought that this would make a wonderful meeting topic.
>> Anyone up for a Debian server install meeting? I'm thinking it might be
>> one of the weekends anytime after Aug 11th.
>
> Well, if I knew the date I might actually try to attend.  :)  DefCon
> is Aug 4-6, and LinuxWorld SF is Aug 14-17, so any Saturday after the
> 11th would be fine for me.
>
> Have I really been too lazy to check the web site?
>
>> While I've done installs before, I've not set up a server sans X so this
>> will be a learning experience for me. Interesting learning opportunities
>> could be setting up Apache for virtual domains, firewalls, serving
>> behind
>> a NAT, ssh security issues, setting automatic apt-get security updates,
>> MySQL user/databases, system admin, logging ... whew, sounds like fun :)
>
> This certainly sounds like a lot to get done in a single afternoon.
> Depending on the speed of the machine, and if you already have all the
> update DEBs downloaded, it could take a long time to just install the
> box.
>
> In production I prefer to have an installation server to serve all
> this up over NFS, and I like RedHat's kickstart system which allows me
> to automate a bunch of post-install steps.  I'm sure there's a way to
> do NFS installs for Debian, but I'm not positive on anything like
> kickstart.  Perhaps a post-install script is in order.
>
> Virtual hosting with Apache is pretty easy.  I have a fairly general
> purpose firewall script I like to use, which you are welcome to also
> use.  It also handles NAT.  For SSH, just disable root logins.  For
> MySQL, I guess that all depends on what data she wants to have. 
> Syslog should already be configured fairly appropriately, unless you
> are suggesting going to syslog-ng, or you meant something like Apache
> mod_log_mysql.  As for "system admin," I'm not sure to what you are
> referring.  And I don't know Debian enough to know if it comes with
> any sort of automated apt-get upgrades, although setting up a cron job
> to handle this should be no problem at all.
>
> A couple other suggestions.  First, use version control on all config
> files.  RCS is simple enough and gets the job done.  It's a good thing
> to be able to simply check out an older, but known-working, config
> file when you break something.  Read the rcsintro man page for enough
> to get started.  Second, configure the mail server to send root's mail
> to a real user, preferably an account that will be read fairly
> consistently.  Maybe this is what you mean by "system admin."
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