[Chixla] Fw: O'Reilly Introduces "Running Boot Camp"

[Michelle Klein-Hass]

On Wednesday 19 April 2006 12:22 pm, SMichelle wrote:
> > And yeah, I am an acolyte of the Cult of Mac myself...I am just a bit
> > more ecumenical than some.
>
> You know that if you're "a bit more ecumenical" across OSes, that really
> means you're a bit of a heretic across OSes ... other side of the coin
> my dear ;)

Ha ha.
>
> > Hey! Maybe that would make an even BETTER Linux Chix presentation!
> > Running Windows 2K in Parallels atop Debian!
>
> Would a Parallels virtualization work on top of a standard Debian
> install? It looks like you need OSX as the base install.

Parallels already works for both Windows and Linux. It's OS X that's currently 
beta-quality and being given away. The Windows and Linux versions are also 
available.
http://www.parallels.com/en/products/primary_os/
Their Debian support is thus:
Debian Linux 3.1 stock 2.6.8-2-386
Which means I'll have to install a 2.6.x kernel on my lappie which currently 
has a 2.4.x kernel on it.
There are other provisos for running Parallels under Linux: 
> NOTE: If using a Linux primary OS, the following software packages must be 
installed:
> 
>     * Sources of currently installed kernel (if you did not install the 
kernel manually, then you should install kernel-sources package from your 
distribution);
>     * glibc [glibc]
>     * gcc [gcc] (included in any development package)
>     * X Window system including
>           o xf86vidmode extension (for fullscreen only)
>           o XKB extension (for keyboard national layouts and leds support)
>     * QT 3.0.5 library multithreaded [qt3]

The advantage of Parallels over VMWare are that 1.) Parallels supports Debian, 
and VMWare does not, and 2.) Parallels is $49.99 where VMWare is $189 for the 
downloadable version and $199 for boxware.
There is also QEMU as a possibility which is both free as in free beer and 
free as in Freedom. However, it is a much more fiddly way of doing 
virtualization than Parallels or VMWare or Win4Lin which I've also looked 
into.
Chad Page, my Linux wizard buddy from Santa Barbara, is trying to figure out 
how to get a working QEMU virtualization going on a ThinkPad 600x he has. He 
would rather me run the  100% Free solution than any payware solution because 
he believes it can be done.
Note this: the primary reason why I want to run Windows 2K as a guest OS is 
SPSS: Statistics Program for the Social Sciences. I will be needing it 
working on one of my machines for Fall 2006 when I start the first part of 
Statistics for Psych Majors. There *is* a version of SPSS that works on Mac 
OS X...however it's currently at v.11 when SPSS is at v.14 for Windows. And 
it COSTS too: $200. A student version of SPSS for Windows comes 
free-as-in-beer with our textbook. 
SPSS also refuses to work under WINE, Cedega or Crossover Office and has been 
a very stubborn case in those attempts. It's also not a high priority for 
Cedega or Codeweavers.
So the only choice I have outside of virtualization is DUAL BOOT. Which I 
DON'T want. Period, punto, end of story. If I wanted to dual boot my ThinkPad 
I would have rigged it to do so by now. If I did dual boot I'd be able to run 
MS Orifice 2K and ACID Pro version 3 as well as SPSS. 
But I don't want to boot my ThinkPad completely into Windows. I want to be 
able to run Windows safely sandboxed in a Windows that can be blown away and 
reconstructed at will. Preferrably running Chroot-ed too.
> That would actually be cool, but I'd also like to include a VMware (or
> other PC virtualization) intro for those less "ecumenical" then Michelle
> ... you know, those standard Linux/Windows bigamists in addition to the
> Linux/Windows/Mac polygamists :)

This is what I actually was talking about: Windows running safely sandboxed 
under Linux. I don't have a MacBookPro or a Mac mini I can sacrifice for La 
Causa. If I had either a MacBookPro or a Mac mini I'd be running them 100% in 
Mac OS X anyway because I need a modern Mac solution to do video editing 
in. :P And right now Mac OS X is the best solution for me with my DV editing 
stuffs. I've been using Woodbury computers and iMovie and I'm really enjoying 
it. Editing video is yet another time sink, but it's a rewarding time sink.
Take care,
The other S. Michelle.
-- 
Michelle Klein-Hass
Box 2273, Van Nuys, CA 91404-2273
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